Comments on: The Case for Church Communications Part 1: What is a Director of Communications? http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/ thoughts from a church communications guy Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Matt Stephens http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-4346 Matt Stephens Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:51:00 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-4346 I've heard that Communications Director is a "non-productive" position, meaning it doesn't directly expand a church's potential to "reach" people.  Have you ever heard this?  Is there any truth to this?  I.e., is a Director of Communications a luxury only megachurches can afford, or is it a viable option for a church (like ours) of 700?  In plain terms, how big would a church have to be in order for such a person to be worth the investment? I’ve heard that Communications Director is a “non-productive” position, meaning it doesn’t directly expand a church’s potential to “reach” people.  Have you ever heard this?  Is there any truth to this?  I.e., is a Director of Communications a luxury only megachurches can afford, or is it a viable option for a church (like ours) of 700?  In plain terms, how big would a church have to be in order for such a person to be worth the investment?

]]> By: Jonathan Haskell http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-4220 Jonathan Haskell Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:43:00 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-4220 Love it! So how does one go about finding such a position?   Love it! So how does one go about finding such a position?  

]]> By: Jhan http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-2204 Jhan Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:33:21 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-2204 Well guys, I have some concerns about being a “brand advocate.” My personal feelings are, I’m an advocate for Christ as represented by/through the church. Well guys, I have some concerns about being a “brand advocate.” My personal feelings are, I’m an advocate for Christ as represented by/through the church.

]]> By: @seeburd http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-1823 @seeburd Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:38:32 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-1823 Thanks for your thoughts Tim. As I'm studying communications at Moody, I get a lot of questions like "why are you studying communications at a Bible college" or "what does communications have to do with ministry?". I am learning a lot about what it had to do with ministry and have been working with some of my peers and classmates to discover and define what communications does look like in ministry. This post is certainly helpful to inform our discussion and to see a "real-life" example of communications in ministry. Thanks for your thoughts Tim. As I'm studying communications at Moody, I get a lot of questions like "why are you studying communications at a Bible college" or "what does communications have to do with ministry?". I am learning a lot about what it had to do with ministry and have been working with some of my peers and classmates to discover and define what communications does look like in ministry. This post is certainly helpful to inform our discussion and to see a "real-life" example of communications in ministry.

]]> By: Terry Cunningham http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-1670 Terry Cunningham Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:02:54 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-1670 A director of communications is an interpreter - taking inner culture and inner language and sharing what's useable and relevant, while remaining faithful to the originals, with those outside. A director of communications is an interpreter – taking inner culture and inner language and sharing what's useable and relevant, while remaining faithful to the originals, with those outside.

]]> By: John L http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-1669 John L Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:26:34 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-1669 BTW, David Hayward has a short, relevant post up today. It speaks to the centralized vs.distributed models of community and communication. I encourage you to check it out. <a href="http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/3862" target="_blank">http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/3862</a> BTW, David Hayward has a short, relevant post up today. It speaks to the centralized vs.distributed models of community and communication. I encourage you to check it out.

http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/3862

]]> By: John L http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-1668 John L Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:50:56 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-1668 "if the corporate world get's it, why can't we get it?" The problem is that we're (favorably) comparing Kingdom to corporatism and/or empire. The Way is a Spiritual -alternative- to man-made idealism. Excellence and achievement in Spirit looks vastly different than excellence and achievement in the commercial or political realms. If we were living like Jesus, our communities would be subverting, not emulating, the dominant power paradigms of our era. "if the corporate world get's it, why can't we get it?"

The problem is that we're (favorably) comparing Kingdom to corporatism and/or empire. The Way is a Spiritual -alternative- to man-made idealism. Excellence and achievement in Spirit looks vastly different than excellence and achievement in the commercial or political realms. If we were living like Jesus, our communities would be subverting, not emulating, the dominant power paradigms of our era.

]]> By: @korykredit http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-1665 @korykredit Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:15:37 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-1665 Good stuff Tim. This conversation has been happening in the secular business/marketing world for a while & it is finally reaching churches. Marketing & communication has changed & evolved dramatically and churches need to redefine how they communicate, through what mediums they communicate through and the new skill sets their communications staff nee to successfully reach their audience/congregation. Good stuff Tim. This conversation has been happening in the secular business/marketing world for a while & it is finally reaching churches. Marketing & communication has changed & evolved dramatically and churches need to redefine how they communicate, through what mediums they communicate through and the new skill sets their communications staff nee to successfully reach their audience/congregation.

]]> By: lewies http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-1663 lewies Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:45:01 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-1663 1 - A church that at first glance say "though we are many, we are one" because of the 'image' it portrays. That doesn't mean the youth does exactly what the music does in terms of communications, design etc., but rather that there are binding factors and guidelines. Speaking of which - can someone PLEASE write a manual and make it available so that our comm. passionate guys can go to the 'could-care-less' or 'don't-have-a-clue' people and use it to help establish basics? 2 - Have a church that looks like the goverment. Oh, we say it's one... but it's silos everywhere. Just look at some church websites - go from page to page and you'll see what i mean. Imaging isn't everything, but boy, if the corporate world get's it, why can't we get it? I don't say we need to look and act like the world. Nope - we need to do it BETTER than them, because our 'product' deserves the best advertisement it can get! Just my thoughts... 1 – A church that at first glance say "though we are many, we are one" because of the 'image' it portrays. That doesn't mean the youth does exactly what the music does in terms of communications, design etc., but rather that there are binding factors and guidelines.

Speaking of which – can someone PLEASE write a manual and make it available so that our comm. passionate guys can go to the 'could-care-less' or 'don't-have-a-clue' people and use it to help establish basics?

2 – Have a church that looks like the goverment. Oh, we say it's one… but it's silos everywhere. Just look at some church websites – go from page to page and you'll see what i mean.

Imaging isn't everything, but boy, if the corporate world get's it, why can't we get it? I don't say we need to look and act like the world. Nope – we need to do it BETTER than them, because our 'product' deserves the best advertisement it can get!

Just my thoughts…

]]> By: lewies http://www.timschraeder.com/2009/08/12/the-case-for-church-communications-part-1-what-is-a-director-of-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-1664 lewies Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:44:57 +0000 http://www.timschraeder.com/?p=2221#comment-1664 First off... I think it is an amazing concept and important position to consider for a ministry - if the ministery can afford it. I hear you John, to a degree. I think we need to constantly challenge the lay people to get more involved, but I also know from experience that it is easier said and done. You have one of two choices: First off… I think it is an amazing concept and important position to consider for a ministry – if the ministery can afford it. I hear you John, to a degree. I think we need to constantly challenge the lay people to get more involved, but I also know from experience that it is easier said and done. You have one of two choices:

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